Monday, May 4, 2009

The great name debate

What’s in a name? A lot according to my colleagues at It’s Called Football who today debated what we should call the cup competition involving Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver.

Ben Knight, in his trademarked passionate way, argued for only (or mostly, anyway) using the informal “Voyageurs' Cup.” Ever the logical one, Ben Rycroft suggested that Canadian supporter’s need to show a little love to the sponsor’s and refer to the competition as the Nutrilite Canadian Championships. Both articulated their position as part of the It’s Called Football penalty sequence, with yours truly acting as the referee.

I took the easy way out and called the debate a draw and suggested that it should be the fans that make the decision on who won the debate.

But first, allow me to weigh in with my position.

I almost always refer to it as simply the Voyageurs' Cup. Although I don’t share Mr. Knight’s passionate dislike of all things corporate in sport (I call New York’s MLS team by its energy drink name), I do feel strongly about the history of this particular trophy and I feel that the CSA has not done enough to ensure that people new to the domestic game are aware of that wonderful history.

For those unaware, the Coles' Notes:

Years ago when no one in Canada seemed to care one iota about the club game, a small but dedicated group of fans at the Voyageur’s decided to take matters into their own hands. Sick of waiting for the CSA or the pro clubs to create a national cup, the fans organized a fund drive and bought the damn thing themselves.

Not stopping there, the Vs made outreaches to the pro clubs in Canada playing at the then A-League (now USL-1) level to get them to recognize the cup. With no budget to speak of, the cup was awarded to the teams that had the best record in league games involving two Canadian teams. Early on it was Montreal that was most enthusiastic about the project and they proudly accepted the cup and the unofficial title of Canadian champions that it carried.

And they accepted it again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. Montreal is the only club to have won it.

This type of grassroots initiative is rare in today’s overly controlled pro sports environment and it should be celebrated. Which is why I refer to the trophy by its name, the Voyageurs' Cup.

However, Mr. Rycroft does make a valuable point. We in Canada bitch and moan about the lack of corporate support for soccer. So it’s a bit silly that when there finally is a sponsor that so many of us go so far out of our way to not use the sponsor’s name. How can we expect more corporate money if there is no perceived benefit for those companies (through increased recognition and loyalty by soccer fans)?

Rycroft’s argument may not be as sexy as Knight’s, but it’s hard to disagree with the underlying logic.

However, this is my issue. There doesn’t seem to be a middle ground. The hardcore fans are almost vigilant about not using the word Nutrilite, whereas most of the mainstream media almost never calls the trophy by name. As a result, many newer fans only know the competition as the Nutrilite Canadian Championships and they don’t have the first clue what the name of the trophy is, nor its history.

I don’t have a problem with Nutrilite sponsoring the tournament. My issue is that I simply want the trophy’s history taught and respected. The Nutrilite Canadian Championships playing for the Voyageurs' Cup? That’s fine.

However, when it comes to a decision on how to use the name here or on It’s Called Football, I’m sticking to the Voyageurs' Cup (maybe using Nutrilite on a first reference). The reason is because as someone working outside of big, traditional media I feel that I have a responsibility to speak for the fans, And it’s my position that the hardcore fan wants this to be called the Voyageurs' Cup. There is little danger of the Toronto Star (for instance) to start using the trophy’s name when referring to the tournament (there is ample evidence to show that), so really it’s up to shows like ICF and bloggers like myself and Ben Knight to keep the trophy’s name out there. Nutrilite will do just fine with all the references it gets in the mainstream. I’m not sure the fringe needs to help spread the word.

That’s my opinion. What’s yours?

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

I agree. Although I thought it was the Voyaguers' Cup (plural possessive).

I am beyond jacked for this tournament. I couldn't pay attention to the Columbus game on Saturday. It's all about the V-Cup. V-Cup or death!!!!!!!!

Duane, why is Wednesday's game a day game? It doesn't make any sense. The Canucks play tonight, there will be no conflict. Do you know why the TFC-Caps game is scheduled so early?

It's Called Football said...

Actually I argued for the middle ground - Nutrilite Voyaguers Cup is what I proposed.

squizz said...

Good post, Duane. As a fringe blogger, I refer to the tourney as the Voyageurs Cup as often as possible, but at the same time, it's only through their sponsorship that I learned what Nutrilite actually is.

J said...

I'd like to keep referring to it as the Voyageurs Cup, but I think it is important to acknowledge that the majority of soccer fans, including the 20,000 that fill BMO each week, or the 55,000 that filled Olympic Stadium, don't know who or what the Voyageurs are. The name that is relevant to them is the one they see on TV and the one that is printed on their tickets.

If the trophy is still awarded (is it?), it has Voyageurs Cup engraved on it. So the Voyageurs Cup being awarded to the winner of the Nutrilite Canadian Championship seems a fair compromise.

Anonymous said...

To me, this tournament will always be the Voyageurs Cup but credit needs to be given to Nutrilite for getting behind it so I'll give a twist to Rycroft's suggestion and call it "The Voyageurs Cup, presented by Nutrilite". It's a mouthful but it works for me

-VPjr-

Ben said...

To the first anonymous - day game? I thought Wednesdays game started at 8:00 pm.

Anonymous said...

The Voyageurs Cup will be around a lot longer than Nutrilite, whatever that is (another calorie burning product?). Keep the original name please. And, as pointed out early on, it is the Voyageurs' Cup (there are more than one of us).
Ed S

coxon said...

Have to stick with the Voyageurs Cup. Also there is legacy to be considered. Is the cup going to change names every time a new sponsor gets on board?

Duane Rollins said...

I fixed the style issue. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

I give it to Nutrilite Canadian Championship or something like Nutrilite Voyageurs' cup because I do get how important the voyageurs' cup is and that's what the trophy is called anyway right? But there is nothing wrong with corporate sponsors, it seems ridiculous to draw the line at the name of a tourney when so many things in football are already owned by advertisers (shirts, ad boards, stadium names, etc.). I think if it's good enough for the Barclay's Premier League or Serie A Telecom Italia Mobile then it's good enough for us.

bgnewf said...

Simple....

The name of the tournament is the Nutralite Canadian Championship

They play for the Voyageurs Cup.

The tournament sponsor gets value for their money and the supporters are not offended that the trophy they created is not sullied by sponsorship.

I think the NHL or CFL would not slap a brand on the Stanley Cup or Grey Cup respectively. Canadian Soccer should follow their sensible lead.

Anonymous said...

I agree with bgnewf. They are (or should be) two separate entities.

A similar comparison lies in the NFL where the game is called the Superbowl and the trophy is the Vince Lombardi Trophy.

Anonymous said...

To the above poster - the problem is, no one except the hardcore football (pigskin) fan would know what the hell the Vince Lombardi trophy is. But everyone knows what the superbowl is. I think that is the point of this discussion - which branding exercise do we promote to start to solidify the identity of this tourney/trophy.

As I posted on the voyageurs website, I think it is unwarranted to exclude any mention of the corporte sponsor, especially since many soceer fans have been complaining about the chronic lack of corporate involvement. One company does come along and support an exciting new tournament, and we turn around and do our best to ignore them? Seems a bit hypocritcal to me.

Having said that, I respect the history of the V-Cup and the efforts of the Voyageurs, so like a few others I would endorse the following:

The (Current Corporate Sponsor) Voyageurs Cup. At this time, this would be the Nutrilite Voyageurs Cup, but in a few years it may be the Owen-Hargreaves-vitamin-water Voyageusr Cup (well, we may need to reopen the debate for that one, but you get the point). Whoever the corporate sponsor is, I think they deserve mention (or at least not intentional exclusion). If we want to encourage the rest of corporate Canada to get on board, I think we should at least acknowledge those early adopters that are already playing for the right team

Anonymous said...

I think Nutrilite Canadian Championship playing for the Voyageurs' Cup is a good compromise.

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